The Grizzly … Posts: 472 Threads: 0 Joined: Apr 2011 #11. Review and photos: Troy McDonald. Lux 3 vs Byrd/Shelix Cutterhead for Dewalt 735 - Which One to Choose? Grizzly offers three types of cutterhead - Byrd, Grizzly, and German made. $956.00. Please read below to identify the correct model for your application. Cannot tell the difference in cut quality. From contributor E: I have run both. Heavy use is a good indicator that spiral might be a good fit. The main difference seems to be the orientation of the cutter inserts - on the Byrd they are skewed at an angle for a true shearing cut while the Grizzly inserts are at 90-degrees to the jointer bed. The inserts are positioned along a helical pattern and rotate at a slight angle for a shearing action that leaves a glassy smooth cut on the toughest of woods. RobRing Two important measurements are the diameter of the bearing mounts and the distance between the two mounting bolt holes. There are several manufacturers using what I call a “generic insert cutter head.” King Canada, Busy Bee, and Grizzly Industrial offer this cutter head as an option on all but a few of their smallest machines. mike9 Member. I am now contemplating the Grizzly 15" planer. 1. The Grizzly "spiral" cutter heads are actually a helix, but the "correct" word may not be as descriptive. I have a Byrd Shelix cutterhead in my planer and I run Weinig spirals in my moulder. I have used both on the same gnarly wood with equally excellent results. The inserts are positioned along a helical pattern and rotate at a slight angle for a shearing action that leaves a glassy smooth cut on the toughest of woods. It would be interesting to see a break-even analysis long term. This by no means is an in-depth or scientific review. The Byrd Shelix spiral helical cutterhead with four sided solid carbide inserts is the ultimate upgrade for any jointer or planer. Byrd Tool also offers custom built SHELIX … As for the shelix head, they are worth every penny. Powered by Tetra-WebBBS 6.21 / TetraBB PRO 0.22 © 2006-2012 tetrabb.com, 0 wallclock secs ( 0.22 usr + 0.02 sys = 0.24 CPU), PLEASE PATRONIZE OUR SPONSORS! Powered by Tetra-WebBBS 6.21 / TetraBB PRO 0.22 © 2006-2012 tetrabb.com, 0 wallclock secs ( 0.21 usr + 0.03 sys = 0.24 CPU), PLEASE PATRONIZE OUR SPONSORS! Woodworkers know that a shear cut is far better than a straight cut. Either one would be a good thing. I’ll start with some key things to know about the grizzly cutterhead vs. the Shelix, then talk about my experience with the grizzly thus far. ... Genuine Byrd Shelix Cutterhead 4 sided Carbide Insert Cutters - Lot of 10 - USA. Then I move to the planer and do the opposite face - then redo the first (joined) face. Although the Byrd head is excellent, I doubt the money difference between it and the Grizzly is actually worth the performance difference (if any). H7765 Byrd® 8" Shelix Cutterhead Manufactured in the USA by Byrd®, the H7765 Byrd® 8" Shelix Cutterhead is very well made and leave a great finish. 27 posts in 228 days. $23.99 shipping. At least on the batch of lumber I obtained I had pretty bad tearout with both machines - edge and face. Byrd Shelix vs. Grizzly Spiral cutters () RobRing >Thanks for the responses - I pulled the trigger and ordered the 490X - the Grizzly 8" jointer with spiral cutterhead. with different paint). Never used one but haven't heard good things about them so good luck. The current cost of the cutterhead is about $330. This by no means is an in-depth or scientific review. With my present equipment, I have seen absolutely no tearout. This Shelix head comes with new, pre-installed bearings, and features four wings that hold a total of 40 Byrd Tool KN400 carbide insert knives. Check Grizzly's website to see if this cutterhead will fit your machine. If so, you may be wondering if you should purchase one that has a spiral cutterhead or a straight-blade cutterhead. 4.7 out of 5 stars 20. It wasn’t until I began using the Popular Woodworking Magazine jointer that I experienced the difference. I'm considering either buying the Grizz 8" jointer with their spiral cutter or buying it with straight knives and upgrading to the Byrd if the performance difference substantiates it. For example, right now the Grizzly G0453Z is $1669 while the G0453 is $1194 (including shipping). edit again: Grizzly has "spiral" cutter head, which I now realize is way different (in theory at least) than the helical or SHELIX as marketing by Byrd. And this is the Shelix cutter head upgrade ... Jay, good write-up and summary. with different paint). © 1998 - 2017 by Ellis Walentine. Since power tools are typically a long-term investment, helical/spiral heads seem to make good sense. This is a mini-review of the Grizzly T27695 15" spiral cutter-head. Each Shelix cutterhead is machined to the exact dimensions as the factory original so no modifications are needed for a smooth and easy install. It also shows the grizzly spiral head H7655 on down the page. I just purchased the 609 with knives. If you have a Planer by DELTA that is not listed below, please inquire as new models are frequently added but may not be online yet. While I have a Grizzly G0634 Combo with the spiral cutterhead, I still use my DW734. Re: Byrd Shelix vs. Grizzly Spiral cutters, Re: Byrd Shelix vs. Grizzly Spiral cutters *LINK*. H7768 Byrd® 15" Shelix Cutterhead Manufactured in the USA by Byrd®, the H7768 15" Shelix Cutterhead is very well made and leaves a great finish. The main difference seems to be the orientation of the cutter inserts - on the Byrd they are skewed at an angle for a true shearing cut while the Grizzly … The inserts are positioned along a helical pattern and rotate at a slight angle for a shearing action that leaves a glassy smooth cut on the toughest of woods. I would be very interested to see if the Shelix blades can be resharpened, not to mention the plausible longer blade life. Below are the GRIZZLY Jointer models listed for which we offer a SHELIX Helical Cutter Head. SEE THEM ALL ON OUR, Larry Clinton At Frankfort (Central)., Indiana, Re: Byrd Shelix vs. Grizzly Spiral cutters -- Larry Clinton At Frankfort (Central)., Indiana -- 7/15/2008, 11:56 am. However, if you're looking for something to prevent tear out, a drum sander will do an awesome job. I have done tons of research on whether or not the cost of an upgraded cutterhead would be worth it. I was a little reluctant to first purchase this head for my machine. (Locust, cherry, walnut, poplar, maple etc.) NOTE! The Dewalt DW735 head is the workhorse of the Byrd Tool Shelix Head line. These are identical except for the "spiral" cutterhead of the G0453Z (see "Helical vs Spiral" in the sidebar), so we're paying a premium of $475 for the spiral head. This type of head is characterized with 3/4" square, four-sided inserts, set typically into four or six rows, spiralling around the head. It might be worth considering a drum sander before installing a new cutterhead into a DW734. Boy am I pleased of this purchase.. There is no need for adjusting any knives as you needed to do with your old head. If you have a Jointer by GRIZZLY that is not listed below, please inquire as new models are frequently added but may not be online yet. Don't think I will require spiral on the jointer since I always run the wood through a planer but if so, upgrading to a spiral head still saves money since they offered free shipping on the knife model. - I normally use 150 ~ then 180 or 220 grit, so I am not in a hurry to rotate them yet. Elevate the capabilities of the popular DW735X planer with the T31496 13" Helical Cutterhead from Grizzly Industrial. Larry Clinton At Frankfort (Central)., Indiana Thanks for the info. I have a Byrd Shelix cutterhead in my planer and I run Weinig spirals in my moulder. - We offer two different models of the DW735 head: The OEM model and the "Easy Install" model. $38.89. Comes with all 40 inserts on the cutterhead, plus 5 extras. These are identical except for the "spiral" cutterhead of the G0453Z (see "Helical vs Spiral" in the sidebar), so we're paying a premium of $475 for the spiral head. 12-04-2020 06:16 PM . All rights reserved. or Best Offer. I see no difference between them. The ORIGINAL SHEar & heLIX and spiral cutter non-grind design. through the joiner and planer so far. $398.99 OSCARBIDE HSS Planer Blades for DW735 Planer DW7352 735X,13 Inch Replacement Knives Double Cutting Honed Edges,3 pieces/Set. Since power tools are typically a long-term investment, helical/spiral heads seem to make good sense. I think the Byrd is my only option if I want a spiral head for the Oliver.